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Why not just give a general idea? Doors - $1000-3000Windows - $500/per2x4's and plywood and siding and insulation and drywall and paint and tile - $1000-$2000Electrical work - varies ($1000 ish)So, my 12x12 screened in porch with a new french door and 6 windows would be around $7000 ish. Depending on materials and whether I have to order custom windows or doors it could be higher.But I'm budgeting $8500, but could skimp and get done for $6000 or could splurge and be over $10,000.
I have a sun porch that has fallen into disarray due to a flat roof which caused major water damage and mold. However, the foundation and flooring remain in a good enough condition where completely gutting it and redoing it won't be necessary. What I know will need to be done is to remove the entire roof and 3 walls (with windows) and rebuild that portion. The size of the room is 18'x8' and our plan is, for right now, to keep it enclosed and insulated with windows as it is to make it a 4-season room. As I am not a contractor, I do not know the specific material list. I was just wondering if it would be possible to get a cost range so I know where to go. This will be a DIY, so the cost of labor can be factored out.
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glad you are not my inspector.IF you watched the video at the end he is sitting in a heated room.he also cut insulation around electrical outlets.as for the foundation ,the process of building this project requires some research by whoever is building it or they shouldn't attempt it.Ron just has certain amount of video to cover the project.SO I think YOU should apologize to Ron,and pay more attention to what is going on.
Nice video. While the walls were shown to be insulated, the concrete slab floor looks like it would be a source of heat loss in winter. How is the concrete slab insulated? I know several people who have bump-outs over concrete slabs and those rooms are ice cold in winter.
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Hello, I currently have a raised (crawlspace underneath) screened in porch that i'd like to turn into a four season room. It has concrete brick covered footings below. Do I have to add more foundation (which would make the project cost prohibitive most likely) or can I turn it into a room as is? Can't figure it out on building code website. Thank you in advance!
This is fabulous however What about the ceiling. My porch deck above has open slats how do I finish out a under ceiling before tackling the wall installation
It's not a matter of being a douchebag. The question being asked is very, very open-ended and requires a huge amount of work for someone to answer. To answer this question appropriately requires someone to sketch out a floor plan for this person, create an entire materials list and basically do all of their work for them. It's the equivalent of asking for help and when someone asks how they can help you, you responding with, "Here, do this for me!".
If Marty actually wants to do this project, what is s/he going to do? First, s/he's going to draw out a floor plan, indicating where everything is, right? Then he or she is going to come up with a list of materials for each item, right? Well at that point, the only thing left to do is to go to your local supply store and get everything priced out.
We don't even know if this person is in America, Canada, somewhere in Africa. What good would answering this question do? Bottom line, it's WAAAAY too open-ended and is one step away from asking, "hey...can you just build me a four seasons room?"
personally, I would consider using sliding glass doors instead of windows. Then open and leave open. Otherwise it will be very difficult to get a true seal around whatever is taken out. Additionally, you would have to consider the item warping while being out in storage somewhere.
rafter changes aren't really required for the ceiling, especially if the ceiling is already there. Use blow in insulation and cover to the depth that the product requires for the R rating you desire.
Looks like this is 3 years old. I too would like advise on flooring since my screened porch has decking. Also has cathedral ceiling to insulate with a ceiling fan there. Good video though the best I have seen
I have a deck on one side of my house and no dinning room can I knock a window out and build a room on the deck
For a 17' x 24' 4 season room, would the costs be about the same to install all sliding glass doors as opposed to inserting a base wall, insulate and dress?
excellent video!! learned a lot!!
Ron, you make that look so easy! I love you......keep up the great videos.
I'm considering an enclosed four season room where there is a 12' x 17' open porch with concrete floor. I've had two bids to enclose two walls, raise the floor by 8 inches, remove the existing siding on two walls and ceiling and install dry wall, as well as remove the existing siding door and providing electrical, heating ducts. The two bids were $17,000.00 and $21,000.00 (special sale price).
I see that the floor of the sample room is concrete. My porch is pressure treated lumber deck, 2 feet off the ground. Assuming that my deck is in sy=turdy condition (and an inspection and permit are obtained), any ball-park idea of the expense of such a project, say, using good-quality materials, in a 10x20 foot space?
with that stone (?) floor, what are you doing for some heat in the winter?
How disingenuous Ron! As a building official the single biggest problem with these conversions is that the initial three season room is never built on a footing/foundation and a four season room MUST be built on a footing/foundation. So the poor schmuck who views your video has no idea that he will never receive a permit to do this work or will have to remove any work completed prior to the receipt of permit unless he digs a trench underneath the existing edge of the structure and builds a proper foundation, capable of supporting the loads of the new building. PLUS, almost every location requires a habitable room to have heat and electricity....it's not a convenience, it's a REQUIREMENT. So, I suggest that the next video you produce have some connection to reality and address the building code issues.
Just finished my conversion, following your suggested methods and it turned out great Ron!
It's up to you. It's your project.
You need to check about it with your power company. Did you complete this yet? How did it turn out, if so?
what is recommend for floors, heating and air
What about cold climates? My covered porch, the roof trusses above, are only ventilated, not insulated. If I use this as a 4 season, I will be losing heat like crazy without insulation, PLUS could get bad ice damns...but you can't just throw insulation up there, you'll block the venting for the rest of the attic!
I found this to be very helpful. The only thing that the video did not answer is if your floor was level. Our front porch is 16 ft 10 inches x 11 ft. concrete with a 4 inch fall for drainage. We want to enclose it as part of our living room. Our house is high off of the ground, and the porch is the same height (next to the living room wall) as the house. We are wondering what the best way would be to make the porch floor level for the living space. Our front porch has a roof. It had pillars as in a Craftsman style house. My husband has removed the old steps and all but one pillar, which he will do as he starts work on this project. Any suggestions would be helpful. The reason for removing this old porch is because we have a new entry porch and nice door. The old porch was damaged and the pillars were broken. Thank you for the information.
want an estimate...go to Home depot with a materials list and ask them
thank you for the insight
You make it look so easy! Makes me wish I had the funds to start the dream addition onto my house.....
All these people asking for estimated costs. How about watching the video's and making a materials list of items you'll need to purchase based on the size of your 4-season walls. Then all you need to do is go to your local hardware store/ big box improvement center and price the list out. It's really not that difficult. I really do think you're asking for too much from Ron. I mean seriously... personalized estimates. Come on people!!
Live in Florida and lanai is frames in aluminum. Can I brace the frame with wood attached to aluminum support
This was GREAT! Thank you for such a clear descriptive informative video and I have already shared it with several folks who I know would benefit.
You make it look so easy.I know that having the right tools also helps.How does your little dog like the new room?
RON your video's are great and the instructions are right on,but the building inspectors are using a Universal Construction set of codes that have absolute application in ARIZONA!!! WHAT ARE WE TO DO ????
YOU MAY HAVE TO USE R-38 INSUL IN ROOF//CEILING AND YOU MUST HAVE HEAT INSTALLED(HARD WIRE INSTALLED )ALSO AIR CONDITION AS WELL OR THEY DENY YOU A PERMIT!!!!! IF they require R-38 insul in ceiling //roof you will have to use 2x8 roof framing and R-19 INSUL in the walls which requires 2x6 framing ,which blows the cost of your re-model or addition thru the roof
It was at one time that you chose if you wanted air conditioning or heating in an Arizona room IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AC//HEATING IN YOUR BUILDING PLANS THEY DENY YOU A BUILDING PERMIT IN COCHICE CTY!!! ,on a slump block houses built in the 1970s they do not even have one bit of insul. in them or any room for that fact,our existing exterior walls.
YOU ARE LUCKY IF YOU HAVE INSUL IN THE CEILING//ROOF AT ALL
well we live in AZ and our building inspector wants R-19 insul in walls and R-38 for ceiling//roof where is there a middle of the road set of building codes ???
Ron, it's been 2 years since the video, I too like to know an estimate on the porch you transformed. it's a great tutorial, I'm seriously considering to do mine and post before and after.
Hi Ron, I just watched your video presentation on converting a porch into a sunroom and found it to be very informative. My porch is approximately 26X9 and I am thinking of changing it into a four season sunroom. What would be the estimated cost were I to follow this plan?
Ron, when we watch your show it is always a learning experience by a skillful teacher. I am the stepdaughter of a general contractor who is now deceased. He also was a skillful teacher. i learn something new everytime i watch your show.
Thank you for your patient teaching.
I love the segment but would like more information on heating the room. We added this type of addition but is only a three season room. The current furnace and air conditioner can not handle the additional space.
I have a small covered porch that I would like to use in the winter for hockey gear, wet boots and such. I was wondering how to go about making temporary walls with windows,that can be removed in the summer months to open the area back up again.
Was very happy to see you used faced insulation and that you stapled the flaps over each other not to the inside of the studs like I see so many people in the insulation business do. Also glad that you didn't use un-faced insulation and put plastic over it. I have done a lot of remodel where contractors have done this and seen a lot of moist sheet rock on the back side because the wall can't breath.
Thanks Ron for the good showing.To all who ask.....Pricing and details are what places like Home Depot is for. Go ask them the questions you asked here. They will give you ideas and cost, and you don't have to buy. No I am not affiliated with HD or any other, it's just common sence. Ron gives us ideas and how to do them; he can't hold all your hands.
Ron, you have a nice home and now you made it even better.
It worked for me, Bro
Your year around porch video does not play. All the advertisements play great then it dies. Suggest you run that one again, with some feeling.
Nice job Ron. Never forces anything, takes his time and everything fits.
Really nice Ron..........I need one of these.....I have used many of your ideas...video's are great. ,!
At my old house I could have used this.
I have a patio and would like to make it into a four seasonal room only one problem I have one rotten beam will it be hard to replace it
Saw this video this AM, and it was really good. However, you did not show the electrical installation. Do you have a video on that?
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One of the better videos 'out there' for porch conversion. Thanks for the share, I booked marked it for later reference :)
You can see in the video at a couple of points there is a black waterproof membrane put in other locations than the windowsill that are not explained in the video.. but this is an important step that should be highlighted.
Don't know if this matters or not, but I have seen others put the electrical wires on the inside (room side) of the insulation rather than the cold side.
Otherwise, I think I would have liked to see some floor & roof insulation tips too.
All the best.
any chance of getting an estimate (guesstimate) on a 12 x 14 screened in porch to make it 4 seasons? A range would be great. Thank you for your anticipated response.
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love these tutorial videos on here. I can see it makes it allot easier to be taught and pick up other handy hints
this is a good series of videos for those with a little experience. I need some additional advice regarding the framing of the windows, I need to attach support framing to the existing ceiling before framing in the window openings and am unsure how to guarantee that there will be a solid connection as there are not currently any existing pieces to anchor into. Will I need to frame in the attic above the porch in order to provide the necessary support, and I am assuming that the taping and sealing done on the existing concrete below will be repeated at the top. thanks for any help on this
Absolutely the best how to on the internet. Thanks. I was looking for help on converting an aluminum sun room into a all seasons room. But, I really learned a lot from watching this. If you have any suggestions on my situation, I would appreciate a nudge in the right direction.
Thanks very much Ron - excellent demo of how its done. Clear and well videod. I've been looking for something like this for ages. Have to build my own in Australia. I'll need to stop termites though and use treated timber.
Ron thank you so much for this video. We have a 3 season patio that I have been thinking about making into a four season.. You made this DYI so much easier for me with useful and many helpful tips.... mike S again thank youBurnsville, MN
Well done Video.great audio and nice close-updetail shots.beautiful design and well furnished.Keep up the great work.